Hi,
This misfunctionality has 2 pieces: Reactos unable to start kernel from
extended partition, and the installer inability to handle extended
partitions
1 MS NT+ supports installing onto the extended partition for ages,
including, yes, Windows 7
So this is requirement if only speaking from formal point of view
2 This feature is extreamely useful for any Windows user-- especially for
ones with busy all primary partitions: 2 backup partitions, one C: and one
just anything other, Linux or OsX - and you very need extended partition to
keep Reactos
3 This feature is extreamely needed for just any real-life (==real
hardware) Reactos tester and developer: see p.2 Plus starting from extended
partition will allow to have multiple copies of reactos installations,
which is bread and water for testers.
The fact this feature is absent just shows where real-life usage by testers
of Ros is: just nowhere.
Regards,
M.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Pavel Pisa <ppisa4lists at pikron.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>> I am not sure, but I have feeling, that if you have none
> system on some of promary partitions and then place
> another copy on extended then it can work and may it be,
> that at the time where I have installed my latest
> (Windows NT or 2k) I have used such setup.
> I have feeling, that NTLDR recognizes partinion numbers
> above 4, but there is some difference in the way
> how partition numbers are counted when compared to Linux.
> Probably that does not work with installer but when
> another system partition specification is manually added
> to boot.ini on primary partition then it can work.
> But I am not sure what is compatibility between NTLDR
> versions and Windows versions for last 15 years
> of Windows evolution. I remember that I had to correct
> machine code of WinNT FAT boot sector code at that days
> to overcome overflow for larger sector number
> which caused overflow exception in NTLDR load/
>> Anyway, if are you speaking about installing /ReactOS
> to extended partition then I suggest to allow such
> option at least in expert mode and even installation
> of freeldr.sys and FAT bootsector into extended partition
> is reasonable because even if Microsoft loader cannot
> be used to load foreign system from extended partition.
> Any modern boot loader can chain to every FAT partition
> which is on any media. Artificial blocking of installation
> of ReactOS to extended partition can mean problems with
> its coexistence with other primary system when there
> is not free primary partition available.
>> Best wishes,
>>> Pavel
>> On Saturday 04 of April 2015 15:23:06 Timo Kreuzer wrote:
> > An extended partition is a container for any number of actual
> > partitions. Since the normal BIOS boot process uses the master partition
> > table, which only contains an entry for the extended partition, not for
> > the subpartitions, it cannot handle it. This can in theory be overcome,
> > but MS has never bothered, so it's not worth it.
> >
> > Am 04.04.2015 um 13:25 schrieb stack exchange:
> > > OK. So I will put en error message, that it can not be installed on an
> > > extended partition. Which is, at least in theory, the same as in
> > > Windows 7, then. I guess with a hack you can still do it, but
> > > apparently it's not the usuall way.
> > >
> > > Am 02.04.2015 um 01:39 schrieb João Jerónimo:
> > >> On 01-04-2015 08:12, stack exchange wrote:
> > >>> If this should be possible though, I would look into it, why it
> > >>> fails and try to fix it. Not sure if XP or others allow
> > >>> installations on extended partitions, I have to check this (been a
> > >>> long time since I last installed an XP
> > >>
> > >> Window$ generally needs to be launched by means of loading the
> > >> partition boot sector at 0x0000:0x7C00, the old fashioned and DOSy
> > >> way. As far as a know, there is no hard limitation preventing one
> > >> from doing so with a logical (i.e. inside an extended) partition, but
> > >> for some reason, most (if not all) windows versions don't allow that.
> > >> When you select a logical partition in windows xp setup, what in
> > >> reallity happens is that NTLDR, the boot sector, and stuff are put in
> > >> a primiry partition (that must exist and be the active partition),
> > >> while all the rest of the OS is put in the partition you select.
> > >>
> > >> IMHO, ReactOS should not try to clone this "feature"... :-)
> > >>
> > >> JJ
> > >>
> > >>
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